though the main problem is this macbook i guess then do get another mac :-) i think thats what i am going to do next time they have big resale value and i will just load windows on it :-) sure, but its damn useless 1) the keyboard doesn't have arrows, Delete/Insert keys, and no way to enter numpad keys 2) overall the keys are just inconvenient 3) it gets visibly dirty (because its white) and not so easy to clean 4) touchpad is annoying as hell (reacts to static and who knows what else) 5) there one button on touchpad. to simulate rightclick on windows you have to put two fingers on touchpad, then click. sometimes it doesn't work as expected. 6) the DVD there is trayless = no small driver disks, and you have to hold disks by the edge to get them out 7) the dvd eject button doesn't work on windows 8) the one i've got was a plain macbook, not "pro" (though the price was ~$1500), so it has a DVD-R+CD-RW drive; even my old HP for $700 has a full DVD-RW with a tray 9) that DVD also makes loud annoying noises on reboot/sleep/awake 10) there's no bios; instead there're some undocumented keys to press at black screen on boot 11) it always plays a loud sound on boot, not affected by volume or anything else. i still didn't find a way to disable it. I've seen scripts which have to be run to disable it on next boot, but only one, and only macos scripts 12) there's no way to hibernate macos. if you boot to windows, you have to fully boot macos next 13) it has overheating problems or something. also likely some with hdd and other stuff. anyway, it goes BSoD frequently enough 14) you can't attach it to a normal display without a separately bought $35 adapter 15) there was a driver problem when i attached it to an external LCD display - it showed garbage in some modes well otherwise, with an external keyboard, mouse, and display its a usable computer ;) ah, and a DVD ah, and "usable computer" doesn't include fancy stuff like experimenting with OS setup etc windows is installed there with apple's special app (bootcamp) so linux etc is not impossible, but hacking it can cause problems and there's no bios ... so after getting it, i only calmed down after understanding that its not a notebook really its better to think about it as a portable device like ipad or something like that its being able to run windows is just a nice bonus feature